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boehner's plan "b" and added unemployment insurance. i'm sure the senate will work on the bill we send them in august and amend it if they like and give us something else to work on. >> you've already put out there what you're willing to go with. want massive spending cuts, ten times the revenue increase but at the same time to get a deal done what level are you willing to compromise? >> the president's first deal was $5 in taxes for every spending cut. i think we should start the negotiate at $10 spending cuts like discussed in the presidential debates and we'll get somewhere to the middle. >> what tax increases would you consider? >> is between $3, $4, $5-1 ra o ratio. we've got a debt ceiling discussion that needs to go on before march and control our debt to gdp ratio. wee have to. >> speaker boehner made it clear that he would support or offer a tax increase on those americans making a million or more. who you support that? >> i think it would have to be coupled with some meaningful tax reform. i know that the bill he had proposed
boehner's plan "b" and added unemployment insurance. i'm sure the senate will work on the bill we send them in august and amend it if they like and give us something else to work on. >> you've already put out there what you're willing to go with. want massive spending cuts, ten times the revenue increase but at the same time to get a deal done what level are you willing to compromise? >> the president's first deal was $5 in taxes for every spending cut. i think we should...
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remember this $600 billion is less than john boehner's last revenue offer. they are going for more at la later point. >> how is that going to play on the hill. >> it'll play well with democrats and not so well with republicans. the president said these tax increases will be permanent. the president is signalling there that whatever is in this agreement cooked up behind closed doors does include a permanent extension of tax decreases for the middle class. that's an important part of the news as well. >> it was
remember this $600 billion is less than john boehner's last revenue offer. they are going for more at la later point. >> how is that going to play on the hill. >> it'll play well with democrats and not so well with republicans. the president said these tax increases will be permanent. the president is signalling there that whatever is in this agreement cooked up behind closed doors does include a permanent extension of tax decreases for the middle class. that's an important part of...
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speaker john boehner calls the house back into session for sunday night. that stokes investor hopes for a fiscal cliff deal and this coming just a few hours after harry reid's comments sent the dow into a tailspin. we have complete coverage in this developing story which is happening tonight as we speak. also, as supplies from the obama team, ep achieve lisa jackson stepping down. can the coal companies finally breathe a sigh of relief? guess what happened in britain when the uk banned handguns. the surprising result that could change the gun control debate. "the kudlow report" start ises right now. >>> the big news tonight, still the developments in washington on the fiscal cliff, eamon javers joins us with the details. >> good evening, meshel. capitol hill sources tell cnbc that congressional leaders are planning to go to the white house tomorrow to meet with president barack obama and it is not entirely clear at this point when that meeting will take place and details are still being hammered out and we saw today a blistering series of rhetorical jabs f
speaker john boehner calls the house back into session for sunday night. that stokes investor hopes for a fiscal cliff deal and this coming just a few hours after harry reid's comments sent the dow into a tailspin. we have complete coverage in this developing story which is happening tonight as we speak. also, as supplies from the obama team, ep achieve lisa jackson stepping down. can the coal companies finally breathe a sigh of relief? guess what happened in britain when the uk banned...
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i think you'll see everything sold off. >> boehner tried to get something through the house. didn't have the votes. i think the market will be skeptical. you may get a minor pop in the indices but you're not going to get a real pop until it passes the house and the senate. >> next year can certainly be, certainly could start out to be a volatile one for the markets. mike santelli of yahoo finance joins us live with what we can expect. welcome back. it is good to see you again thanks a lot. >> you have been expecting if we do get some kind of deal that will sell right into it you still really believe that given the moves of the market over the last few days? >> you got to tell me exactly what level we're trading at when we get news of a real deal. when we're down 3% in eight days which is what we are right now you're preselling a little bit of that nervousness that i would have expected to set in after a deal. i felt like if you ramped because you thought a deal was going to happen then you just get ratification of that deal. to me that wasn't in itself a catalyst but at this
i think you'll see everything sold off. >> boehner tried to get something through the house. didn't have the votes. i think the market will be skeptical. you may get a minor pop in the indices but you're not going to get a real pop until it passes the house and the senate. >> next year can certainly be, certainly could start out to be a volatile one for the markets. mike santelli of yahoo finance joins us live with what we can expect. welcome back. it is good to see you again thanks...
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you know, boehner is going to be coming up to a speaker election january 3rd. all it will require is 17 republicans to overthrow him if they don't support him. that is a tiny number. you could argue this is inherently unstable. you could argue that maybe we're going to get it. some talk about bringing him an outside speaker like john huntsman. and i don't see that happening. but you get a sense of anything could happen in this system. >> and maybe it's a benefit. maybe in the long-term, but certainly right now there does seem to be a sense that it is a small group of people holding the rest of the process hostage. >> oh, yes. i'm trying to find something good to say about something. because the alternative is china, you know? i'd rather have a -- >> is that the case, though? is there not an alternative that you see and other examples as you look whether it's to europe, here in the uk? >> right. right. and people have been saying right now that america needs to do what britain has been doing. and maybe there's a case for that. but nonetheless, if britain has a p
you know, boehner is going to be coming up to a speaker election january 3rd. all it will require is 17 republicans to overthrow him if they don't support him. that is a tiny number. you could argue this is inherently unstable. you could argue that maybe we're going to get it. some talk about bringing him an outside speaker like john huntsman. and i don't see that happening. but you get a sense of anything could happen in this system. >> and maybe it's a benefit. maybe in the long-term,...
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john boehner said it's up to the president and harry reid so are both sides standing at the precipice waiting for each other to make the next move. >> not really. it really is all up to john boehner to decide whether he wants to bring this vote to the house floor. if he doesn't, i would put on either your cliff bungee cord or your cliff parachute and that's actually an important difference. >> we would like a bungee cord and a parachute. >> right. >> but i would like to know maybe we have neither. what do you think happens to the market, matt, in either scenario, deal or no deal? >> i can't imagine we're going to get a deal done with any significance. you know, they are probably going to change it as we go forward so maybe they will let us go over the cliff, the market will crash a little bit. i don't want to say crash as in crash but we could retrace some of the gains and a rough start to 2013 until they finally realize that maybe the large-cap companies could be leading us through the rallies. maybe it will take the stocks back up the latter half of 2013, first quarter. >> oliver, w
john boehner said it's up to the president and harry reid so are both sides standing at the precipice waiting for each other to make the next move. >> not really. it really is all up to john boehner to decide whether he wants to bring this vote to the house floor. if he doesn't, i would put on either your cliff bungee cord or your cliff parachute and that's actually an important difference. >> we would like a bungee cord and a parachute. >> right. >> but i would like to...
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john boehner is not going to roll over and do whatever they want. we're going to play this over and over and over again, not just on the debt ceiling but when government spending runs out. >> to mr. haven, my son's great english teacher, they haven't gotten anything done yet. eamon. thank you. >> michelle, the london whale the big headlinen2012. will the orlando whale make a big splash in 2013. just imagine, you may be able to get a piece of shamu. the story next on "power lunch." >>> this cnbc program is sponsored by the lincoln wish list event. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes. >>> take a look at your screen right now. mother nature really dumping snow on our neighbors to the north. they generally handle snow pretty well up in canada, but this storm came as fast and furious tying u
john boehner is not going to roll over and do whatever they want. we're going to play this over and over and over again, not just on the debt ceiling but when government spending runs out. >> to mr. haven, my son's great english teacher, they haven't gotten anything done yet. eamon. thank you. >> michelle, the london whale the big headlinen2012. will the orlando whale make a big splash in 2013. just imagine, you may be able to get a piece of shamu. the story next on "power...
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the folks on the senate side said, wait a second, john boehner is who to blame. at the white house, they're pointing their finger at capitol hill. there's a lot of finger pointing but not a whole lot of action. >> all right, eamon. thanks so much. >> you bet. >>> as negotiations continue on washington, that is a bit of an overstatement, check wall street, the fear index is spiking as the markets drop. we're back above 20 for the first time in fact in five months. up 14% in the past week. let's get trading action here at the nysc. mary thompson joins us on the floor. this is a vulnerable point for the markets. traders have been saying they're going to make a lot of noise and it will get made up. >> suddenly it isn't. so we're having a bit of a reality check. the dow, the s&p and the nasdaq all negative. it's the lowest now of the month. the vix is spiking. moving above the 20 level for the first time in five months. we want to point out the last time we had this angst over what was happening in washington was in august of 2011 when we had the debt crisis and the s
the folks on the senate side said, wait a second, john boehner is who to blame. at the white house, they're pointing their finger at capitol hill. there's a lot of finger pointing but not a whole lot of action. >> all right, eamon. thanks so much. >> you bet. >>> as negotiations continue on washington, that is a bit of an overstatement, check wall street, the fear index is spiking as the markets drop. we're back above 20 for the first time in fact in five months. up 14% in...
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they don't pass anything and they would make the argument they would limit the tax cut and speaker boehner has made the same argument. >> thank you so much. we want to show people what is going on with the after markets because even though john says people are optimistic the markets are not optimistic. right now if the dow jones industrial average were to open at this moment it would be down 315 points. that's a reflection of the futures trading that happens in the after-hours. we'll see how asia opens on monday and right now the markets do not like what they see. they are not optimistic at this point and maybe if a mini deal gets done, a mini deal is not enough to deal with what the country faces. after all of this time the president still wants congress to come up with a plan instead of assuming the leadership mantle himself. let's talk to a member of congress about that. james langford serves in the house budget committee and he joins me now. sir, have you conceded you're not getting spending cuts are you voting on raises taxes on people who make over $250,000 come sunday or monday, wha
they don't pass anything and they would make the argument they would limit the tax cut and speaker boehner has made the same argument. >> thank you so much. we want to show people what is going on with the after markets because even though john says people are optimistic the markets are not optimistic. right now if the dow jones industrial average were to open at this moment it would be down 315 points. that's a reflection of the futures trading that happens in the after-hours. we'll see...
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speaker john boehner has called the house back into session sunday evening. house majority leader eric cantor is telling his members to be prepared to work through january 2nd. both sides are still far apart on taxes and spending cuts. harry reid says prospect deals by monday are unlikely. minority leader mitch mcconnell says there's still time for an agreement. >> republicans aren't likely to sign a blank check just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. that wouldn't be fair to the american people. >> now, a new reuters poll shows americans blame republicans more than democrats or president obama for the fiscal crisis. and when asked who they held more response, 27% said the gop, 6% pointed to the dems and 30% said all of the above. for more on this, we're joined by christian schultz from barronberg bank. welcome. so we're going over the fiscal cliff. >> well, the consumer confidenc already be over the cliff in terms of confidence already. that might already be the first impact of the crisis of -- not of the crisis, but yes of the fiscal cliff.
speaker john boehner has called the house back into session sunday evening. house majority leader eric cantor is telling his members to be prepared to work through january 2nd. both sides are still far apart on taxes and spending cuts. harry reid says prospect deals by monday are unlikely. minority leader mitch mcconnell says there's still time for an agreement. >> republicans aren't likely to sign a blank check just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. that wouldn't be...
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and i think that boehner, speaker boehner has been very aggressive in doing that. quite honestly i think he's gone much further than i would have expected him to go on the revenue side. he's essentially said he's willing to give the revenue to the president he wants. he was even willing to give him some rates that he wants. and he's also said, and i think he's right on this, unless you match those revenues with spending reductions he can't pass the house with that. and he shouldn't pass the house with it, because it really is the spending issue that we've got to focus on now. i think everybody's -- knows where the revenue number is going to. it's going to about $1 trillion. but the spending number is simply not there. and it hasn't been there, and until we get some movement from the other side of the aisle, so to say, on the issue of how you reform the entitlement accounts, you're not going to get that. now i will give the president credit for this. he did put on the table, as your other commentator there said, the chain cpi. that is a huge give in my opinion by th
and i think that boehner, speaker boehner has been very aggressive in doing that. quite honestly i think he's gone much further than i would have expected him to go on the revenue side. he's essentially said he's willing to give the revenue to the president he wants. he was even willing to give him some rates that he wants. and he's also said, and i think he's right on this, unless you match those revenues with spending reductions he can't pass the house with that. and he shouldn't pass the...
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said boehner, why did byner -- they were so close, only a couple hundred billion apart, why did boehner walk away? wasn't there an insistence that you do two years for the debt ceiling that they didn't waiver on? >> yeah, there are a couple of elements that boehner didn't like in what the president was proposing. one was the semipermanent or multiyear debt ceiling deal, which he thought gave up too much control from congress. and then the other one was, they didn't think that all the spending cuts that the president was proposing were, in fact, real. they thought that the president was proposing savings from spending on interest that you wouldn't have to make if you brought down the deficit a little bit. they thought that shouldn't count under the limit, and that was a couple hundred billion dollars there. >> but the two-year thing was probably a nonstarter because, you know, we're going to talk to john cannis in a second because i sort of thought all along that if we went over the cliff it was good for the president, because he gets tax rates back to where he wants them, without negoti
said boehner, why did byner -- they were so close, only a couple hundred billion apart, why did boehner walk away? wasn't there an insistence that you do two years for the debt ceiling that they didn't waiver on? >> yeah, there are a couple of elements that boehner didn't like in what the president was proposing. one was the semipermanent or multiyear debt ceiling deal, which he thought gave up too much control from congress. and then the other one was, they didn't think that all the...
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boehner w was -- speaker boehner was doing the dirty work they were unable to do. >> i know you aren't watching the markets closely. would it alter the calculus at all? does it mean we get a framework in 24 hours if we lost a lot? >> caller: yes. i think the tragedy of what we're failing to do in congress we should do it on our own because it's our responsibility. the only way it looks like we do some of these things is after we get pistol whipped by the market. with the debt ceiling last august that was essentially what is about to happen. i think the market is going to punish us for our failure to act and may be the only thing that gets us to act. >> finally, have you been to a starbucks lately? putting comments on coffee cups to get you guys put a deal together. >> caller: i'm in vermont and we are deficifferent coffee folks earl' earl's. >> a way to make a deal on the cliff, already ordering his grande cliff special to see for himsel himself. >> how are you doing, carl. we are 10 minutes from the white house and some of the more prominent washington d.c. think tanks are close by. a
boehner w was -- speaker boehner was doing the dirty work they were unable to do. >> i know you aren't watching the markets closely. would it alter the calculus at all? does it mean we get a framework in 24 hours if we lost a lot? >> caller: yes. i think the tragedy of what we're failing to do in congress we should do it on our own because it's our responsibility. the only way it looks like we do some of these things is after we get pistol whipped by the market. with the debt...
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the john boehner has said chain cpi. and medicare eligibility age. >> right. >> those are the two things that he's laid out for medicare and social security. >> right. >> your party's nominee last year ran against obama -- or in this campaign ran against obama for cutting medicare. what are the specific entitlement savings that you guys want to enact? because that's your ask of obama. he's told you what taxes he wants to raise. >> i've got a whole list of them. i mean, certainly starting with chain cpi, but the age, the copay, means testing. >> he's agreed to that. >> betting on competitive situation in between medicare manage and deeper service without any cap i mean it adds up to about a trillion dollars. and when you have a situation where americans are paying one-third of the cost of medicare, i don't think people realize that, but literally people are paying one-third of the cost of medicare, we have 20 million more americans coming on medicare over the next decade, i mean it's a time bomb. >> i agree with you it's
the john boehner has said chain cpi. and medicare eligibility age. >> right. >> those are the two things that he's laid out for medicare and social security. >> right. >> your party's nominee last year ran against obama -- or in this campaign ran against obama for cutting medicare. what are the specific entitlement savings that you guys want to enact? because that's your ask of obama. he's told you what taxes he wants to raise. >> i've got a whole list of them. i...
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we've talked about 400 which was the president's last offer to boehner. we've we've talked about 450, 5 oorks all of those are possibilities about and there's an inner play between those levels and things like what happens on the estate tax, what happens on the sequester. do they come up with two months of cuts, do they come up with three months of cuts to try to satisfy those who say, well, we may not want the across the board budget cuts that are called for under current law, but we want some cuts if we're going to agree to tax increases. that's a key republican demand. so all of those things are in play. each movement in any one part affects the others and we'll vus have to s just have to see where it comes out including capital gains and dividends which is i'm assuming would go 20%. that's down from 39.6 which is where they would go under current law if we go over the cliff. but it's up from 15 in both areas from where we are right now. >> last question, john, and i'll make this question. if we're talking about things like capital gains and seques r s
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john boehner suffered an embarrassment thursday night. >> at least he suffered it then. didn't have this great big deal we thought would avert everything and get us where we want to go and then not deliver. are you sure the president can deliver everything from his side. >> the deal will look like the budget control act of the summer of 2011 where you get democrats and republicans voting for it. all you learned thursday night is the president can't deliver 218 of his own guys for a deal. this is something the media isn't really picking up on much. >> the speaker. >> sorry. the speaker. for a deal which was never going to become law. remember, a member of congress, a republican, i know plenty of them, are willing to vote for revenue increases. they say we have this deal harry reid said the senate won't pick up and ask you to vote for revenue increase or tax hike, a lot of republicans will say hell no to that whereas they might vote for the larger deal that stands for a chance of addressing the fiscal cliff. >> congressman, what is the chance we're doing this in february a
john boehner suffered an embarrassment thursday night. >> at least he suffered it then. didn't have this great big deal we thought would avert everything and get us where we want to go and then not deliver. are you sure the president can deliver everything from his side. >> the deal will look like the budget control act of the summer of 2011 where you get democrats and republicans voting for it. all you learned thursday night is the president can't deliver 218 of his own guys for a...
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and on tuesday john boehner, the 113th congress is sworn in and john boehner is expected to be elected to his second term as house speaker by a vote in the house. we'll see if everyone plays nice in the sandbox and work together to solve the country's problems in 2013. if you're sitting down to breakfast, this bowl of cereal, that milk can get more expensive if a fiscal cliff deal is not reached. that gallon of milk might cost as much as $7. cnn's candy crowley spoke with secretary of agriculture tom vilsack. $7 milk? this is known as the dairy cliff, right? >> yes, it is. we've been so focused on other kinds of cliffs, but, in fact, because there is no farm bill, they revert back to some laws that were enacted in the 1940s. it would cause -- because milk won't be, if you will, propped up, it would cause milk prices too almost double, at least according to the agriculture secretary. they're working on a fix, something like that which hits consumers so hard. they'll notice that immediately is likely to be something that congress does do something about. my guess is they will just extend
and on tuesday john boehner, the 113th congress is sworn in and john boehner is expected to be elected to his second term as house speaker by a vote in the house. we'll see if everyone plays nice in the sandbox and work together to solve the country's problems in 2013. if you're sitting down to breakfast, this bowl of cereal, that milk can get more expensive if a fiscal cliff deal is not reached. that gallon of milk might cost as much as $7. cnn's candy crowley spoke with secretary of...
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we are not into the senate yet and the republican speaker john boehner plablamed the crisis one president saying he the one who has never found a way to say yes. >> so you are in new york and i'm in atlanta, and we get to washington now, because the senior congressional correspondent dana bash is closely following the negotiations from capitol hill, and dana, you have been there and talking to people, and where are we on this? >> well, the senate majority leader harry reid was on the floor moments ago saying that the senate will reconvene at 11:00 a.m. tomorrow. the senate will reconvene tomorrow at 11:00 tomorrow, and that means no senate votes tonight which is not good news for everybody looking at the calendar and looking at the watch at this point and not the calendar to see that it is midnight tomorrow night that everybody's taxes in this country will go up. simply put, both sides are not at a place where they believe that they can come up with anything to put on the senate floor for a vote tonight. they will give it until the actual deadline, december 31st tomorrow, to reconvene. ho
we are not into the senate yet and the republican speaker john boehner plablamed the crisis one president saying he the one who has never found a way to say yes. >> so you are in new york and i'm in atlanta, and we get to washington now, because the senior congressional correspondent dana bash is closely following the negotiations from capitol hill, and dana, you have been there and talking to people, and where are we on this? >> well, the senate majority leader harry reid was on...
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bypassing house speaker john boehner, who has had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority on minority leads are harry reid on mitch mcconnell to work out a deal on then present it to the house. he also laid out a scaled down mini deal if they are can't manage it. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor, i asked senator reid to do this, put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on miedddle class families don' go up, that unemployment is still available for 2 million people on that lays the groundwork for additional deficit reduction on economic growth steps that we can take in the new year but let's not miss this deadline. >> as for the two senate leaders, they spoke shortly after the meeting on sounded a bit more hopeful than the president. >> i think it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it's a very serious meeting on it took an extended period of time, as you all know wai
bypassing house speaker john boehner, who has had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority on minority leads are harry reid on mitch mcconnell to work out a deal on then present it to the house. he also laid out a scaled down mini deal if they are can't manage it. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor, i asked senator reid to do this, put a bill on the floor that...
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boehner had a bad beating in that plan b vote. >> i think the main thing that boehner has going for him in the rivalry is he has the worst job in the world. >> is it really the worst job in the world? >> certainly the worst job in congress. speaker boehner has to sit there and eat a lot of stuff you wouldn't necessarily want to eat because there are a lot of republicans who basically want to emote, they want to act up and speaker boehner just has to take it and try to hammer deal and eric cantor, if he goes into boehner's role, he has to do the same thing boehner wants to do. >> the starting quarterback hates the number two quarterback and boehner, if he was smart, he should have dispatched him a long time ago and said, young man, i'm going to put you out to pasture if you pull that crap on me again. he made a mistake over the debt ceiling. >> the two of them are working very closely during the negotiations. if you ask any republican on the senate, nobody thinks boehner's speakership is challenged. >> but it only takes 17 votes for that whole thing to fall apart. it reminds me of "the g
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again, boehner couldn't get it through his caucus at $1 million a year last week. so i think what we need to do ultimately, not going to happen now because there's no time to have a grand deal but ultimately, we have to have a grand deal where we have to cut spending and increase taxes and we have to do that to put our country down the fiscal path of responsibility. now, the question though, it becomes a political question in the house, because john boehner has not wanted to pass it with democratic votes. there have been, just last year, there have been instances, where a majority of republicans, but not enough to make a majority are joining with -- >> let me just interrupt you -- >> -- to make a majority. >> let me ask you this point, this is more to the philosophy of democracy here. do you see that we have an inability as congress to reach some sort of compromise? in other words, that we are watching the decay of democracy here in our inability to do anything or accomplish anything, especially when it comes to the fiscal cliff. are you worried about the future an
again, boehner couldn't get it through his caucus at $1 million a year last week. so i think what we need to do ultimately, not going to happen now because there's no time to have a grand deal but ultimately, we have to have a grand deal where we have to cut spending and increase taxes and we have to do that to put our country down the fiscal path of responsibility. now, the question though, it becomes a political question in the house, because john boehner has not wanted to pass it with...
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dy call john boehner the top elected democrat in the country. he's the top-elected republican in the country. jessica, thank you for that reporting. we'll be back to you in a few moments. in a few hours, in just a few hours, trading will open in some parts of the world for the final time this year. here's the problem -- they're going to be reacting to what's going on in washington. people around the globe are going to be watching what is happening in the united states with a wary eye, cnn international anchor jim clancy is with me now. jim, this is such a hyper-focused american problem and yet it's really a problem for the whole world. >> it definitely is. if mitch mcconnell is looking for a dance partner. the united states is the dance partner for the entire world. the markets hate uncertainty what they hate even more is steering abject failure square in the face. those markets are going to open up in four or five hours' time we should see some limited reaction in asia. but perhaps not yet. it's still uncertain what is going to happen here. the
dy call john boehner the top elected democrat in the country. he's the top-elected republican in the country. jessica, thank you for that reporting. we'll be back to you in a few moments. in a few hours, in just a few hours, trading will open in some parts of the world for the final time this year. here's the problem -- they're going to be reacting to what's going on in washington. people around the globe are going to be watching what is happening in the united states with a wary eye, cnn...
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boehner promised at one point he would publish things for three days before they voted on them. i thought that was a good idea. obama campaign promising the negotiations would be on c-span. what they're doing right now is fundamentally wrong and not likely to help very much, and just leads us to the next crisis, which will be over the debt ceiling, to be followed by another crisis. >> i'm going to ask you to stick around if you can. >> unfortunately, i can't, but i do want to wish you a happy new year despite the fact that you're in washington. >> mr. speaker, to you and the entire family, we wish you a happy new year as well. we'll see you back here in washington at some point, i'm sure. >> take care. >> thank you very much. we'll get senator rand paul's perspective on what's going on. the republican senator from kentucky, when we come back. i plugged in snapshot, and 30 days later, i was saving big on car insurance. with snapshot, i knew what i could save before i switched to progressive. the better i drive, the more i save. i wish our company had something this cool. you're n
boehner promised at one point he would publish things for three days before they voted on them. i thought that was a good idea. obama campaign promising the negotiations would be on c-span. what they're doing right now is fundamentally wrong and not likely to help very much, and just leads us to the next crisis, which will be over the debt ceiling, to be followed by another crisis. >> i'm going to ask you to stick around if you can. >> unfortunately, i can't, but i do want to wish...
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does john boehner come out of this weakened or strengthened? >> john boehner's weakness and strength are kind of the same thing. he tends to take a laissez faire approach with his guys, doesn't kick them in the side very often. not able to do that. that makes him popular, means people like him, but it's hard for him to command his troops. i don't think he comes out of this any worse off than before in terms of members of his caucus, they look at him as having created a strategy that is narrowly navigating all the sholes. >> the result of the deal, we will have to have two or three more deals in the coming months and go through the cliff like negotiations. what is the takeaway and lesson for the republican conference. they keep bainary long and try to get better deals? or get forced to the up or down votesory the course of the coming months? >> they are looking for leverage. their favorite word. where do they have lev rage over the president to get spending cuts? they keep seeking leverage long past the point where it's obvious the president has
does john boehner come out of this weakened or strengthened? >> john boehner's weakness and strength are kind of the same thing. he tends to take a laissez faire approach with his guys, doesn't kick them in the side very often. not able to do that. that makes him popular, means people like him, but it's hard for him to command his troops. i don't think he comes out of this any worse off than before in terms of members of his caucus, they look at him as having created a strategy that is...
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but at this point, it's up to john boehner to see how much support he has for the bill with or without amendments and whether he can move forward today or if it's going to be delayed. e we should find that out shortly. >> brianna keilar live for us at the white house, thank you. also we're going to keep an eye on washington today. we'll be live throughout the day to just see what the house plans to do. and then coming up we're going to get the pulse of the people too. back in a moment. >>> we're all keeping a close eye on the house today to see e what those house members decide to do about the fiscal cliff. the republican leaders there are expected to meet about 20 minutes or so. actually an hour and 20 minutes or so to go over their strategy for the day. that's when they will decide potentially if we're even going to have a house vote today on that plan that the senate approved early this morning. for you out late last night, it was late last night. 2:00 in the morning eastern time. going to keep you updated on the machinations of the house. in the meantime, since it's the first day o
but at this point, it's up to john boehner to see how much support he has for the bill with or without amendments and whether he can move forward today or if it's going to be delayed. e we should find that out shortly. >> brianna keilar live for us at the white house, thank you. also we're going to keep an eye on washington today. we'll be live throughout the day to just see what the house plans to do. and then coming up we're going to get the pulse of the people too. back in a moment....
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boehner hasn't cut cant or out. you ask any republican on the hill, nobody thinks boehner should be challenged. >> that does seem to be conventional wisdom. but it only does take 17 votes for that whole thing to fall apart. he reminds me of the godfather, keep your friends close, your enemies closer. >> he knows him too well to want to take it. >> that's a fascinating point as well. number two, we've got grover norquist versus the gop. and here's what's fascinating. he's been a major player, a huge figure, and yet the push back has been growing. the tide has been swelling. take a look at this montage clip of republicans pushing back on grover norquist in the atr pledge. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other should be avoid greed. >> i never signed the pledge. >> he's becoming irrelevant. you can see it in his eyes. he knows the game is up. >> a pledge you sign 20 years ago, 18 years ago, is for that congress. >> i'm going to be the
boehner hasn't cut cant or out. you ask any republican on the hill, nobody thinks boehner should be challenged. >> that does seem to be conventional wisdom. but it only does take 17 votes for that whole thing to fall apart. he reminds me of the godfather, keep your friends close, your enemies closer. >> he knows him too well to want to take it. >> that's a fascinating point as well. number two, we've got grover norquist versus the gop. and here's what's fascinating. he's been...
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republican representative tom cole says he's confident that boehner can get the votes he needs. >> on the speaker's plan, he had over 200 republican votes, it's not as if he had an awfully strong hand to play, if it's a deal john boehner can accept, it will be passed in a bipartisan manner with a very strong majority. if on the other hand he's neutral or not favorable, his chances will be a lot slimmer. >> lisa desjardins following the fiscal cliff negotiations on capitol hill. do you have any good news for us, lisa? >> reporter: the news is a little better than it was earlier today. we know negotiations are still happening. there was a point today where we thought there was a total breakdown. tonight it's between senator mitch mcconnell and vice president joe biden. we're some of the last people in the building. i know -- come on through, guys, if you want. there's one of the crews that -- the worker crews are starting to come into work tonight. we're the last reporting crew. all the members of congress have pretty much gone. the republicans in the house were meeting late tonight to
republican representative tom cole says he's confident that boehner can get the votes he needs. >> on the speaker's plan, he had over 200 republican votes, it's not as if he had an awfully strong hand to play, if it's a deal john boehner can accept, it will be passed in a bipartisan manner with a very strong majority. if on the other hand he's neutral or not favorable, his chances will be a lot slimmer. >> lisa desjardins following the fiscal cliff negotiations on capitol hill. do...
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house speaker john boehner feeling a lot of the heat. we'll talk with the spokesperson for a conservative group that suggests that he resign because of his failed plan "b." p chases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone...but her likes 50% more cash. but i'm upping my game. do you want a candy cane? yes! do you want the puppy? yes! do you want a tricycle? yes! do you want 50 percent more cash? no! ♪ festive. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on every purchase plus a 50% annual bonus on the cash you earn. it's the card for people who like more cash. what's in your wallet? it's the card for people who like more cash. excuse me, sir i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24/7. sounds a little too good to be true sir. i'll believe that when pigs fly. ok, did s
house speaker john boehner feeling a lot of the heat. we'll talk with the spokesperson for a conservative group that suggests that he resign because of his failed plan "b." p chases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone...but her likes 50% more cash. but i'm upping my game. do you want a candy cane? yes! do you want the puppy? yes! do you want a tricycle? yes! do you want 50 percent more cash? no! ♪ festive. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash...
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you gave your bletszing ing bl proposal that john boehner put forward. so many congressional republicans are scared of voting for something that feels like, looks like, smells like a tax increase because they're worried your organization will come back to haunt them because you signed a pledge. you gave your blessing and they still couldn't get the votes on the floor. what's up with that? why did that not happen? a week ago i was hopeful we might have a deal. >> okay. because the pledge is not to me. it's to the american people. it's to the people of the state that any congressman or senator is from. they have to feel that they can go to their constituents and say i voted against all efforts to raise taxes. i argued having read the boehner plan, it was silent on the taxing people who make more than a million dollars, it made permanent as opposed to obama who wants to just protect you for a year, he made permanent the tax cuts for people who made less than $250,000 a year, actually a million dollars a year. and as a result, it was a giant step towards pro
you gave your bletszing ing bl proposal that john boehner put forward. so many congressional republicans are scared of voting for something that feels like, looks like, smells like a tax increase because they're worried your organization will come back to haunt them because you signed a pledge. you gave your blessing and they still couldn't get the votes on the floor. what's up with that? why did that not happen? a week ago i was hopeful we might have a deal. >> okay. because the pledge...
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house speaker boehner is in ohio. president obama as reported is in his native hawaii. before leaving washington, president obama urged congress to pass a mini plan that would preserve middle class tax rates. brianna keilar joins us live from hawaii. what do we think will happen as the holiday week rolls out? >> reporter: well, and don, we should probably say where our senate majority leader harry reid and senator mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, because now all eyes turn to the senate. they're set to come back to town on the 27th. that is thursday. and at this point there are a number of options for some sort of bill that senate majority leader harry reid could put on the floor, but right now it appears democrats in the white house are pushing for something that still concentrates on making sure that income tax rates for those making a quarter million dollars or less don't go up. that said, it's really hard to see how at that rate senator mcconnell might allow some republican senators to support it or that some republican senators would even want to jump
house speaker boehner is in ohio. president obama as reported is in his native hawaii. before leaving washington, president obama urged congress to pass a mini plan that would preserve middle class tax rates. brianna keilar joins us live from hawaii. what do we think will happen as the holiday week rolls out? >> reporter: well, and don, we should probably say where our senate majority leader harry reid and senator mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, because now all eyes turn...
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the strangest part is we haven't heard what john boehner thinks about it, whether he thinks he can muster a majority. we're hearing from dana and jessica and you heard from the senator there are some problems on the democratic side of the senate on this, and the weirdest thing in the world, grover norquist, signed off on something that raises taxes on people who earn $400,000 as individuals or $450,000 as a household. you know, cats are sleeping with pigs today. it's very unusual, but it looks like everybody gets to say they got something out of this deal, but it's far from a complete deal. this is a puny, mini deal that $24 billion that dana was just talking about, it is a small portion of it, but it gives me hope in humanity that they were able to get a deal done. i don't want to jinx this thing. it's still only 9:20 on the east coast. >> everything i have been hearing from white house sources as far as the president was concerned, extending the unemployment benefits for 2 million americans, as far as he was concerned, that had to be in the deal. he wasn't going to accept anything short
the strangest part is we haven't heard what john boehner thinks about it, whether he thinks he can muster a majority. we're hearing from dana and jessica and you heard from the senator there are some problems on the democratic side of the senate on this, and the weirdest thing in the world, grover norquist, signed off on something that raises taxes on people who earn $400,000 as individuals or $450,000 as a household. you know, cats are sleeping with pigs today. it's very unusual, but it looks...
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the house disappeared for the holidays after boehner's plan "b" failed. where is the sense of urgency? everyone is home at night and hopefully we're all putting our hopes on mcconnell and joe biden having a productive dinner, but by god, to your point, this has been going on for not just weeks or months, but years. and the fact that they're trying to cobble together some kind of patch to avoid the political pain and the economic pain more importantly to the country that's set to kick in tomorrow night at midnight is, frankly, pathetic, and it's a political problem, but it's an economic problem, and it's entirely self-created. when marshall blackburn was talking earlier and trying to blame the senate, look at the mirror. don't block at the other guy radio right now. you have to own this, and if particularly in the house of representatives because it's the republicans in the house that have been the biggest stumbling block. we got 98% agreement, both parties and the president agree 98% of americans shouldn't have their taxes raised and yet we're stalled. >>
the house disappeared for the holidays after boehner's plan "b" failed. where is the sense of urgency? everyone is home at night and hopefully we're all putting our hopes on mcconnell and joe biden having a productive dinner, but by god, to your point, this has been going on for not just weeks or months, but years. and the fact that they're trying to cobble together some kind of patch to avoid the political pain and the economic pain more importantly to the country that's set to kick...
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how much trouble is john boehner in as the speaker of the house? >> i actually -- i actually don't think that john boehner is going to be in that much trouble this year. i don't think when his speakership comes up for a vote that he will be in trouble. i don't see anyone else lining up to take his job. >> perhaps in the last few hours we may have seen -- >> i just interviewed darrell issa and he says that he's with eric cantor. >> so that might be changing but i do think that john boehner has certainly lost control of his caucus. but frankly, they might want a weak leader because then they think they can control him. >> it's the second poke in the eye. he had plan b and now the pressure a lot of people got from the meeting at the white house, boehner said, it's up to the senate. let them pass something. if it's a bipartisan majority, we'll bring it to the house and vote on it up or down. >> you were talking about the political damage republicans could sustain and there are about 50 or 60 republicans sitting thinking, yes, i'm really worried about t
how much trouble is john boehner in as the speaker of the house? >> i actually -- i actually don't think that john boehner is going to be in that much trouble this year. i don't think when his speakership comes up for a vote that he will be in trouble. i don't see anyone else lining up to take his job. >> perhaps in the last few hours we may have seen -- >> i just interviewed darrell issa and he says that he's with eric cantor. >> so that might be changing but i do think...
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now that house republicans have clearly rebelled against john boehner, can the senate save the day? that's the big question? >> we will see what happens when the senate comes back on thursday. at least that's the plan right now, the house as well. it has to do with those votes. as far as i'm told, there are no discussions going on, no real talks about trying to find common ground or more specifically to find those votes. we did hear from some republicans over the weekend who -- you would be surprised they would say they'd vote for tax increases. johnny isaacson of georgia. we'll see. but the betting from democratic and republican sources at point is that we're likely to go over the fiscal cliff and there's a big political reason. once we go over the cliff, everybody's taxes go up. that's sporpt to remember. the way that lawmakers will be able to vote to change that is for a tax cut. now they are going to be voting for a tax hike of some sort. there's a very different political reality between those two votes. >> let's hope they meet in the middle, somebody that is to give between no
now that house republicans have clearly rebelled against john boehner, can the senate save the day? that's the big question? >> we will see what happens when the senate comes back on thursday. at least that's the plan right now, the house as well. it has to do with those votes. as far as i'm told, there are no discussions going on, no real talks about trying to find common ground or more specifically to find those votes. we did hear from some republicans over the weekend who -- you would...
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he's blaming the republican john boehner for the stall in talks on fiscal cliff. dana bash is our congressional correspondent. it just seems like this is the blame game. the house speaker would blame the president, the senate majority leader would blame the house speaker. who is to blame in all this? >> everybody is, carol. it's the blame game. i'm a little surprised at how personal harry reid just got in going after the speaker. it is true that things have clearly broken down, that goes without saying, and that the democrats were not happy that maybe a week and a half ago the speaker pulled out of talks with the president after they had reached a pretty good amount of progress. but the fact that he called the speaker a dictator and in the next breath said he's worried about his job, it's a little contradictory, but very personal. let me give you a little bit of a reality check. that is it is true that the house is not in session. they will come in quickly at 2:00 in a pro formal way and house republican leaders have told members they will give them 48-hours notic
he's blaming the republican john boehner for the stall in talks on fiscal cliff. dana bash is our congressional correspondent. it just seems like this is the blame game. the house speaker would blame the president, the senate majority leader would blame the house speaker. who is to blame in all this? >> everybody is, carol. it's the blame game. i'm a little surprised at how personal harry reid just got in going after the speaker. it is true that things have clearly broken down, that goes...
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this is very tricky for john boehner and his lieutenant. they have a relatively narrow house majority, polls show that the fiscal cliff blame would be mostly on them, not the president. not on democrats. that might change. but this is a very risky move if we go well into january with this unresolved. >> and you got to wonder if the house republicans are kicking themselves for not passing the plan b, which allowed for tax rates on people making a million or more since the figure that passed was significantly less at 400,000. bob cusack, thank you. we appreciate you being with us. >> thanks, deb. >>> well, developing this hour in alaska, on a shallow and rocky shore line near the uninhabited kodiak island, a huge oil rig has run aground. it has run aground. the coast guard has done a flyover of the shipwreck. it says that there is no signs of an oil spill. at least not at this stage. the kulluk is carrying 150,000 gallons of fuel and oil, operating as part of shell's controversial arctic drilling program. >>> well, word of new fallout from th
this is very tricky for john boehner and his lieutenant. they have a relatively narrow house majority, polls show that the fiscal cliff blame would be mostly on them, not the president. not on democrats. that might change. but this is a very risky move if we go well into january with this unresolved. >> and you got to wonder if the house republicans are kicking themselves for not passing the plan b, which allowed for tax rates on people making a million or more since the figure that...
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john boehner needs to take this deal struck in the senate that presumably has some buy in from him if not from his rank and file, because mitch mcconnell did not negotiate this is a vacuum and this is a pretty overwe will being vote. he will take this to his conference today and see where they are at. the expectation is there are two directions this could go. either a vote on the bill or house republicans propose changes so they can amend the bill more to their liking and send it back to the senate. but i think this is expected to move along here. >> there could be amendments, one past, they could vote on amendments, could fail, and then vote on the full measure. isn't that true also? >> yeah, that is true, and the other thing is once anything goes to the floor, it's not just up to republicans, it will -- and the think the expectation all along, whatever ultimately passes the house as we saw in the senate will require democrats and republicans. >> talking to phil gingery, seemed to be leaning no on this. but this time, secretary bamr. doesn't need all of the votes. >> and even though
john boehner needs to take this deal struck in the senate that presumably has some buy in from him if not from his rank and file, because mitch mcconnell did not negotiate this is a vacuum and this is a pretty overwe will being vote. he will take this to his conference today and see where they are at. the expectation is there are two directions this could go. either a vote on the bill or house republicans propose changes so they can amend the bill more to their liking and send it back to the...
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speaker john boehner to bring it to a floor for a vote. tom cole says he's confident boehner can get the plans he needs. >> he had over 200 republican votes, it's not as if he doesn't have an awfully strong hand to play. if it's a deal john boehner request accept, frankly, i think it will be passed in a bipartisan manner with a strong majority. if on the other hand he's neutral and not favorable. then his chances are going to be a lot slimmer. >> we will find out in the morning whether any progress came out of the senate leader mitch mcconnell's meeting with vice president joe biden. >>> we've been asking you our viewers to send in your thoughts, your messages to elected representatives, so let's close tonight with some advice from one of you to washington. >> my message to all of washington for the new year is to set partisanship aside working on behalf of 100% of the voters, fix this mess you've gotten us into, bring a balanced budget to the table to grow this economy for the long term not the short term. >> have a good night. i'm don le
speaker john boehner to bring it to a floor for a vote. tom cole says he's confident boehner can get the plans he needs. >> he had over 200 republican votes, it's not as if he doesn't have an awfully strong hand to play. if it's a deal john boehner request accept, frankly, i think it will be passed in a bipartisan manner with a strong majority. if on the other hand he's neutral and not favorable. then his chances are going to be a lot slimmer. >> we will find out in the morning...
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john boehner, the speaker of the house, has also been seen leaving. so what we want to do is find out what is going on here. obviously we have our jessica yellin there and we will talk to her a little later about what she has learned. now, the fiscal cliff and these last-ditch talks is the only game in town. joining me for today's strategy session is roland martin and cnn contributor erick erickson, editor-in-chief of. they are saying, hey, we don't have to compromise. we have more people in congress coming in that are democrats. the president doesn't have to give on that $250,000 top. where do you stand on this? do you think the president does or should compromise up to -- particularly on the tax issue? >> you can't be a democrat and ask republicans to compromise if you don't want to give up something. i think the president clearly understood that. so when he laid the $250,000 out, he gave himself some room because, again, you saw speaker boehner's proposal, it dealt with 1 million. look, you have to compromise. democrats can't say, hey, we have more
john boehner, the speaker of the house, has also been seen leaving. so what we want to do is find out what is going on here. obviously we have our jessica yellin there and we will talk to her a little later about what she has learned. now, the fiscal cliff and these last-ditch talks is the only game in town. joining me for today's strategy session is roland martin and cnn contributor erick erickson, editor-in-chief of. they are saying, hey, we don't have to compromise. we have more people in...
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john boehner from your state of ohio. there are a lot of people that say if the deal were between these two guys, it would be made. the problem is john boehner can't agree to something with president obama and then take it back to his own party. >> well, and vice versa. a year ago august the president couldn't agree to the deal he needed another $400 billion in revenue. look, if the president and senator reid and john boehner all said to me today it's written, let's put simpson-bowles on the floor, i guarantee you given the urgency we could cobble together something to solve this problem but nobody is willing to pull the trigger. everybody wants to play the blame game. this blame game is about to put us over the edge. >> the problem, of course, which you don't personally face because you didn't run for this new congress is a poll that we have that was taken very recently that says -- we asked who would be more responsible if the fiscal cliff occurs. 48% of respondents say the gop in congress. 37% blame -- would blame pres
john boehner from your state of ohio. there are a lot of people that say if the deal were between these two guys, it would be made. the problem is john boehner can't agree to something with president obama and then take it back to his own party. >> well, and vice versa. a year ago august the president couldn't agree to the deal he needed another $400 billion in revenue. look, if the president and senator reid and john boehner all said to me today it's written, let's put simpson-bowles on...
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boehner couldn't even get that through. so the question now is, what on earth are they going to do to get them to vote on raising taxes at a much lower threshold, $250,000. i think what boehner will have to do and the clock is clearly ticking, he has to convince not a majority of the majority, the so-called hastert roll but whatever he can to get enough votes, period drawing from nancy pelosi's caucus and his own to get this true. >> how severe do you think the backlash would be against republicans, especially say looking forward to 2014, midterm elections? >> well, polls seem to show that most people will blame republicans for this if we go over the cliff. they already have this reputation of being obstructists and the spending cuts about by the way, i don't think they're going to do anything about that now. so i think these spending cuts are going to go into effect at least in the january. so that means i think if there's such a thing as going partially over the cliff, i think we'll probably do that. so $1.2 trillion spre
boehner couldn't even get that through. so the question now is, what on earth are they going to do to get them to vote on raising taxes at a much lower threshold, $250,000. i think what boehner will have to do and the clock is clearly ticking, he has to convince not a majority of the majority, the so-called hastert roll but whatever he can to get enough votes, period drawing from nancy pelosi's caucus and his own to get this true. >> how severe do you think the backlash would be against...
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you said you were supportive of john boehner's plan b a week ago. which would have raised taxes on people earning above $1 million, only on that amount that was above $1 million. but there are a whole bunch of your own colleagues that wouldn't let that pass. 50 republicans wouldn't vote for that. how is that somebody else's problem? >> democrats can't have it both ways one of the reasons many of my colleagues didn't want to vote on it, harry reid said he wouldn't bring it up for consideration. the democrats can't have it both ways. can't criticize the speaker for not passing the bill. tame saying the president wouldn't veto it. it probably won't pass. the reality is we did pass the bill. on august 1st. done in a bipartisan way, done plenty of time in advance and now it is up for the senate to actually act. that's the way it works. remember that? i'm just a bill on capitol hill? we pass a bill, it goes to the senate, they have to do their job. they went golfing last week, went on vacation and now not convening until 11:00. >> i am not hearing anythin
you said you were supportive of john boehner's plan b a week ago. which would have raised taxes on people earning above $1 million, only on that amount that was above $1 million. but there are a whole bunch of your own colleagues that wouldn't let that pass. 50 republicans wouldn't vote for that. how is that somebody else's problem? >> democrats can't have it both ways one of the reasons many of my colleagues didn't want to vote on it, harry reid said he wouldn't bring it up for...
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boehner is not a strong leader. he doesn't have the pork and the earmarks anymore since they've been banned. and a lot of the incoming -- or the folks that came in in 2010, the tea party folks, they look at the tom delay are era and say -- >> they're both long time qulil wat capitol hill watchers, and we have to ask you are you seeing any sway now in following boehner? is he losing support? >> obviously the fact that he thought that he would be able to bring the bill last week to the floor to raise taxes on everybody making a million dollars or more and then had to pull it before he even brought it up for a vote, that gives you your answer. the answer is yes. he went out so far on a limb it almost broke off saying he was going to do it, it was going to pass. what he was trying to do i'm told from sources, familiar with the meetings that he had leading up to the decision which didn't go anywhere, was try to save republicans from themselves. he understands, he's an old time -- you you covered him for years in congress
boehner is not a strong leader. he doesn't have the pork and the earmarks anymore since they've been banned. and a lot of the incoming -- or the folks that came in in 2010, the tea party folks, they look at the tom delay are era and say -- >> they're both long time qulil wat capitol hill watchers, and we have to ask you are you seeing any sway now in following boehner? is he losing support? >> obviously the fact that he thought that he would be able to bring the bill last week to...
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john boehner and mitch mcconnell representing the republicans. brianna keilar live now from washington. great to see you. house doesn't return to work until sunday. logistically speaking here, is there still enough time to work out a deal? >> i will tell you logistically speaking, logistically speaking, yes. politically speaking, very much unclear, there's a growing amount of pessimism about whether or not that can be done. we've been talking for days about how eyes are on the senate to see what harry reid cobbles together to try to get republican support in the senate and house. he's saying it's hard to see how this can get done by january 1st. so we're seeing a lot of managing of expectations and certainly a lot of posturing on both sides as it appears they're getting ready to play the blame game should we go over the cliff. listen to both sides. >> republicans are not about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> we are here in washington working while the mem
john boehner and mitch mcconnell representing the republicans. brianna keilar live now from washington. great to see you. house doesn't return to work until sunday. logistically speaking here, is there still enough time to work out a deal? >> i will tell you logistically speaking, logistically speaking, yes. politically speaking, very much unclear, there's a growing amount of pessimism about whether or not that can be done. we've been talking for days about how eyes are on the senate to...
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speaker boehner is extremely strong. his conferences support him and knows that he's been in a tough position trying to negotiate the fiscal deal with the president. he's been doing this for weeks, month, working on this deal. and you know, they gave it a shot. they tried their best. the house, you know, house republicans wouldn't go for it. and said, you know, it's up to the senate. and once -- if the senate passes something, the house now will consider it. so i -- i do think that the speaker is in a very strong position. and besides, this is a very difficult job. i don't see many republicans standing up and wanting to take speaker boehner on. not many other people could do the job like speaker boehner is. >> i agree. i see you saying that. think about it, he didn't look good when plan b couldn't go to a vote. how can he be strong in this position? >> i think house republican see the position he's in. they're divorcing the fact -- divorcing the deal versus his leadership. he has presented an effective leadership style.
speaker boehner is extremely strong. his conferences support him and knows that he's been in a tough position trying to negotiate the fiscal deal with the president. he's been doing this for weeks, month, working on this deal. and you know, they gave it a shot. they tried their best. the house, you know, house republicans wouldn't go for it. and said, you know, it's up to the senate. and once -- if the senate passes something, the house now will consider it. so i -- i do think that the speaker...